Sat Nav On Bikes

seems like some of the changes apply to Motorbikes

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/march/new-law-handheld-devices-driving/

I am a little lost though as to the wording?

"Sat nav systems can still be used while riding, but they'll need to be positioned out of the 45º angle of the rider's view and you won't be allowed to reprogramme them while riding."

So we have to fit them on the wing mirror now???????

 

What are Satnavs for ? ... Knobheads... If that us the ruling, they should move your clocks out of the 45Deg view too... What cock thought this up... ? I really hate repeating myself.... f@&*ing Knobheads.

 

I wrote this article just after the new penalties came in. It went onto the website yesterday so hot off the press so to speak.

Hopefully it might help and clarify things for you a bit

https://www.hudgellsolicitors.co.uk/news/road-traffic-accidents/mobile-phones/

 

I do seriously think the people who write these laws actually do not drive, or have not driven enough to actually give them a true experience of how to drive, it is a skill like everything else, though you cannot have one law I suppose for one and another law for the other idiots, the ones who drive for the first time and hammer down the road putting their lipstick on with one hand, and mobile in the other.

As for your list in the article you wrote, it just contradicts itself in every possible way. so ok to use a 2 way radio, I.E. CB??? you can make a call if stationary, but with engine switched of as if you are stationary you are moving still according to some idiot, so with stop start engines you will be fine .Smoking they never seem to include that do they, must be all those law writers smoke

Anyhow, I don't use a Sat Nav, I read a map between my legs still while driving, no one can see that it is a Skill an Art Form long lost now days because of Sat Navs

 

I wrote the article based on the law as it currently stands so I am just the messenger, but as you say it is written with the common denominater of the most stupid and thick road users out there in mind.

It might be frustrating to you as a skilled road user, but 99% of the motoring public fall into the thick category which is why the bar has to be set quite low so as to be fair to everyone.

 

Very simple....If the vehicle is in a queue of traffic (as an example), then the fact that the ignition is still turned on, it is deemed as the engine still running.

The engine has to be turned off, which means that the ignition has to be turned off.

Hope that helps?

 

I don't have an ignition key either, it is key less, the ignition is effectively on once in the car, and in traffic the stop start will cut out the engine. Anyhow there is no reason to use a phone in the car, get BT, and even now with Apple Play you can read texts and reply using the in car system, and voice activation with mic.

 

Oh Well they must have sacked someone

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/march/new-law-handheld-devices-driving/

 

Divs...at least it's clarified though.

 

Then it goes back to my original point that if you are in a queue of traffic (as opposed to clearly being parked) and you are seen to be using a hand held, then the offence will complete. I understand what you are saying, but a degree of common sense has to be applied by the copper as well

The circumstances are going to vary and so it can become subjective, and at the moment there has not been a lot of case law, so...... How about a pubic service excercise and put your theory to the test and see how you fair on conviction and appeal and then let us all know how you got on.

 

Then the problem goes away

Remember though with a sat nav or a phone in a cradle, you are allowed to press one button to activate or deactivate just as you would were you changing a channel on the car radio or turning it off

It is the physical holding and using of the hand held device that causes the issue not a device that is hands free or on bluetooth.

So with a sat nav, so long as you are not inputting data wholst on the move, you won't have an issue anyway.