Relaxed The Carnage easy sunday ..5th May

Just because you ride fast doesn't mean you are a good rider ? Incoming

 

And just because you ride slow, does not mean you are not a fast rider. I can see this is all gonna end up in tears

 

its all bollicks 1 man drop off system is used so you can ride your own pace. if you dont ride with more experinced riders how are you going to become better its more of a case of dont ride beyond your limits. every ride ive been on with sec the slowest rider has been looked after.unless im leading

 

There seems to be a touch of a knee jerk reaction to this.

It's not a penis size contest guys, no one is questioning masculinity. The point is more that when a ride is posted as, for example "progressive" it's expected that everyone can keep on the pace without causing the group to wait, minimising the down time for the drop off guy - if he's even needed.
Riding slow does actually mean you're not fast - it's imperial but I know what you mean.

The idea of the labels are to give people attending a heads-up of what to expect, not to prove anything;

If you don't like riding at break neck speeds whenever out of town and on the twisties - don't join Tom (Upper limit of progressive)

If you don't like meandering through the countryside at a pleasant pace but with no idea whatsoever where you're going - don't join Rich. (Relaxed)

No one is saying you can't have both, but it can be reassuring that riders don't feel they're holding the group up or those that prefer to "press on" can do so without constantly checking for lost bikers.

 

If there were loads of ride outs every week that you could pick and choose, then fine, but if someone fancies a ride out who is not as good as rider as some others on a certain type of ride out posted, then they feel they are not wanted and would not go, I do not see how that can help the forum as a group, it will just split people into groups, not a good thing.

I also think that this could force people to ride beyond their ability to try and be able to be classed as good enough to be in certain groups, also not a good thing.

I understand sometimes the need for ride outs to try and have a balance, and for the progressive riders to know that there could be slower, even L riders on the ride out that would slow the ride in general down. but tbh if all the fastest riders went out on a so called progressive ride out using the drop off, you will still get a wait time due to traffic and hold ups.

Maybe instead of a drop off system on certain larger ride outs with variable ability, there should be meet points and it is up to individual riders to know who to get to points, or split into smaller groups meeting at the same points. So everyone can ride at their pace.

I would not like to see someone refused by others to go on a certain ride out, possible the only ride out on that day because they are deemed to slow, once this happens this will cause a lot of friction, and divide.

 

Ear ear!

 

Roadwart, Ride outs at what ever pace you feel like riding at the time, not just about the pace of the ride out posted, but also it is the people you enjoy being with, just because these people are at different riding abilities should not mean they should not go.

Riding fast in general is what the mood takes you at the time, not a planned event.

 

Hows this for a spanner in the works.....a very few on here, I would not wish to ride near at speed. I have been riding on and off for a bloody long time. And I have seen some riding, that I would class as erratic by some "experienced" riders. (I pass some of you on your rideouts quite often) and it would not fill me with confidence to be on a rideout with the "progressive" group, even IF I had one of my old bikes now.
There are a fair few riders on here, and I know we cant all "approve" of the riding skills of all, so, it is not a criticism, merely a choice born of observation, but I for one would be much happier not being in the progressive. And I am an experienced rider (I hope), so there you go.

 

lets not get too carried away here ....i see the proposed rating that has been introduced as a "Rough" guide for example ...relaxed could vary from obeying every posted speed limit and feeling like your on a dvla retest to simply keeping it easy through built up areas and maybe opening it up on a nice open road with no traffic which will see a slight concerteena effect in the group, seeing it close up again in a short distance.
No person is ever going to be able to gauge anothers individual proposed rate of ride until they actually go out with them and see what they mean by "relaxed" but the guide will help.
should you attend a relaxed ride a find its too slow or not relaxed enough for you then obviously next time you see that person propose a relaxed ride youll know the standard to expect .....the system will take a little time to settle as every one gets to know everyone elses idea of what rleaxed or progressive or balls out means.