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Hi Vis.......shove It Where The Sun Doesn't Shine.......

Discussion in 'Main Forum' started by HAYABUSADAVE, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Roadwart

    Roadwart Administrator Staff Member Administrator +

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    High beams are designed for lighting up the maximum amount of road at night. As such they point more forwards than down which means you run the risk of dazzling an oncoming driver, even in the day as the intense part of the light is going to be more at eye level. You must have followed a car during the day with its rear fog left on when there`s plenty of visibility & sworn at them as its so damned bright, even though its a red light which is more "eye friendly" that white light. This is going to be made worse with Bi-xenon lamps or the new HID lights being fitted these days as you`ll be hidden behind a bright white spot of light.

    With this in mind, you run the risk of being pulled for doing it as its technically illegal as per the highway code rule 114

    Which in turn references The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations (1989)

     
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  2. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    the thing is riding with Brett his lights don't dazzle. There are a few bikers who ride on full beam in the day time and I rarely notice but then I am yet to find any bike lights that are anywhere as bright as those on a car.


    I think maybe we should put a test together and see what works and where it works

    Hi vis versus reflective clothing.
    Headlights on / off /full beam and coloured lights

    There are enough bikes and bikers on here to get a pretty good range of views all based on our personally experiences but doing a test could give an answer :rolleyes:

    ( it won't of course but it would mean riding our bikes and drinking lots of coffee while we debate it :thumbsup:)
     
  3. pedrocbf

    pedrocbf Commuter 500 +

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    You mean motorcycle riding ... :O no thank you old boy ill stick to my push bike... or as i hear it refered to at meetups and ride outs .. the pussy wagon

    (apologies for the expeletives) :)
     
  4. Roadwart

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    I can`t comment one way or the other, as I don`t recall ever passing him coming the other way with his headlight on full beam. I was just pointing out the potential legal implications of riding with it on.
     
  5. MaDProFF

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    Right or Wrong RW, I rather I take a risk of upsetting a few drivers or even the plod than stop people pulling out in front of me, even traveling at less than the speed limit I have actually had to stop because lorries have pulled out. don' t often get flashed for HB on, and never behind a car , lorry long enough to upset them :p
     
  6. MaDProFF

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    I do know one thing Hi Viz Jackets often upset Horses :( on another note too, even some of those cyclists lights are dam bright now days you see in the dark
     
  7. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    fashion victims of the four legged kind :rolleyes:
     
  8. Roadwart

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    Fair do`s mate. You know the risks & are willing to accept the potential consequences IF you get a tug then crack on :thumbsup:

    Unfortunately a lot of things can upset horses :(
     
  9. MaDProFF

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    Sure some of you has seen this? Hi Viz enough for you? :)

    Sure this will get you a tug

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  10. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    at first the police hated that but I have since seen a comment from them supporting it. It's bloody scary when you come up behind someone wearing it a bit quickish
     
  11. MaDProFF

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    I can imagine actually Tom as they think that it will pretend to be a police presence, until someone panics and slams their brakes on and causes an accident then they will probably condemn it
     
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  12. megawatt

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    I ride with headlamp on high beam during the day and especially in bright sunshine. If it bothers car drivers, it means they've seen me.
     
  13. BlackHornet

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    maybe but then they haven't done that when it's been a real police officer so guessing they won't care that much
     
  14. Roadwart

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    Not a fan of the "Polite" range for bikes, horses or anything else for that matter. Pushing a bit too close to impersonating a police officer for my liking.

    As I said earlier, I`ve given my reasons for not doing it. As long as you appreciate you *could* get a tug with the possibility of a fine/points & don`t complain if you do, its your choice. :thumbsup:
     
  15. RedRock

    RedRock Street Fighter +

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    My worry is that bikers wearing their high vis yellow/pink with lights on will think all driver will see then - wrong. It is in our own interest to judge if a driver has seen you, never assume they have.
     
  16. JimBo

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    I could be decked out like a Xmas tree and I would still assume they hadn't seen me.
     
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  17. ninjabob

    ninjabob Street Fighter +

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    I wondered what you were doing :giggle:
     
  18. JimBo

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    You thought I was out of control didn't you? :p
     
  19. Russell

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    Is drawing the tash on yourself compulsory if wearing that hivis?
     
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  20. RedRock

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    London Bike show has loads of stalls with all colour High Vis, pink, orange, green, blue, yellow. Flashing light strips to stick on your helmet (or elsewhere). And high vis jackets with airbags, but sorry to say not yet available all colours! But glad to say for the rest of us LOADS of stuff in black :D
     

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