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Is It Just Me And New Bikes

Discussion in 'Main Forum' started by BlackHornet, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    I keep reading reviews like " does it all for you" "makes riding fast easy" "point it at the track and your king of the fast group"

    With traction control, abs, lean angle direction, launch control, wheelie control etc etc are new bikes heading the way of computer game car like Nissans GTR and becoming boring :sleep:

    I want a bike I have to ride and one that only rewards if you work it not something you just point and shoot. :mad:
     
    BlackHornet, Mar 3, 2015
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  2. Miky_G

    Miky_G World Superbike +

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    I couldn't agree more.

    It's more rewarding to go fast on a bike that you control ... and people on new bikes hate it when you blast past them ha ha !
     
    Miky_G, Mar 3, 2015
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  3. Panel Man

    Panel Man Secret prototype +

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    Plus one. Works for cars too.
     
    Panel Man, Mar 3, 2015
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  4. MaDProFF

    MaDProFF World Superbike +

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    Hmm, all those gadgets might just save your life one day, only needs to save it once, when I was young I used to think I was better than machine, now days well I rather have a safety net.
     
    MaDProFF, Mar 4, 2015
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  5. Eagle

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    Is it becoming boring or is it just lulling you into a false sense of security? Surely all these "aides" are just things to make you think you are better than you actually are.
    I agree I would much rather know how far I can push my ability than find out the electronics have let go and I am now looking at that approaching tree way outside of my ability to pull it back :eek:. I would also like to think that other people on the road are concentrating on what they are doing and not asleep coz their early warning system will stop any problems.
     
    Eagle, Mar 4, 2015
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  6. MaDProFF

    MaDProFF World Superbike +

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    Can't you turn most of them off? If not all?
     
    MaDProFF, Mar 4, 2015
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  7. Eagle

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    just written that and then I saw the random quote "Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck". Must be a sign.
     
    Eagle, Mar 4, 2015
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  8. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    ABS maybe but launch control and wheelie control are only going to help if you are ham fisted and have no idea what you are doing.
    Sure they mean a brand new rider could nail a bike off the line but then a chimp could do that.

    A lot of them you can turn off or change to one of 100 different levels but I fear it may be like a car i once owned. The thing would set to factory default every time you turned it off. It was a real pain and dangerous for me.
     
    BlackHornet, Mar 4, 2015
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  9. ramrider

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    think i would like the best of both, for a commute to work or touring i would like all gizmos but for the track just engine and tyre's
     
    ramrider, Mar 4, 2015
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  10. MaDProFF

    MaDProFF World Superbike +

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    People's reflexes do not slow that much over time, it is the information to the brain that gets drastically slower, mostly due to worsening eye sight, and hesitation, we all get older, :( and as the average age for bikes riding now days is frigging ancient I can see why they are fitting all this safety feature stuff.
    I can understand Tom's and others frustration I was once on your side of the fence, but now not so much, These mods now days actually do account partly for my decision of buying a bike.
    Tom, factory default should always be the safest, if you think about it, it is the correct order, but I agree you should, and soon will on all/can map up your own maps to toggle through as you ride, my MS can have so many settings changed to set as sport/any mode etc. to take off, and change the default settings for most things.
     
    MaDProFF, Mar 4, 2015
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  11. ramrider

    ramrider Race Rep +

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    These mods now days actually do account partly for my decision of buying a bike.
    so you would not ride a bike without them?
     
    ramrider, Mar 4, 2015
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  12. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    I guess I do like some advances hence I traded in the horse for a motorbike :hah:

    Just maybe still build the odd RAW bike for me :thumbsup:
     
    BlackHornet, Mar 4, 2015
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  13. MaDProFF

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    Another thought now days, I wonder what the Insurance man would say if someone crashed a bike with all those safety features turned off? and it could have made a difference to the accident happening and not happening.
     
    MaDProFF, Mar 4, 2015
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  14. MaDProFF

    MaDProFF World Superbike +

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    So you gonna become a Cyclist :( they are pretty RAW
     
    MaDProFF, Mar 4, 2015
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  15. hoppielimp

    hoppielimp Fair Weather Rider +

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    Cyclist don't really want traction control...otherwise they can't do this...
     
    hoppielimp, Mar 5, 2015
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  16. GuzziRob

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    Oh for the days of magnetos, dynamos and kick starts..:violin:.. could rebuild a Triumph or BSA twin engine in an afternoon :)
     
    GuzziRob, Mar 5, 2015
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  17. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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    No a a cycle is like asking for a raw T bone steak and just getting the bone :thumbsdown: Stills needs to have an engine :bike:
     
    BlackHornet, Mar 5, 2015
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