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Injunction Taken Out Against Bikers In Harlow

Discussion in 'Main Forum' started by NAPA121, May 21, 2016.

  1. NAPA121

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  2. Russell

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    What a load of crap
     
  3. MaDProFF

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    If weather was nicer, should organise a country wide ride for us to all ride to Harlow individually ofc :)
    It applies to cars as well
     
  4. Roadwart

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    You`ve all missed the obvious way round this. Start at a minute past midnight & finish by 9.59 am :)
     
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  5. NAPA121

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    Sounds like a Jimbo run.....
     
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  6. JimBo

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    Who wants to ride their motorcycle in Harlow? It'd be better in the dark that's for sure.
    (only joking residents of Harlow)

    If this wasn't so serious it would be laughable. But no laughing matter with the courts involved.
    Looks like my fears in another thread are being realised!:(
     
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  7. Russell

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    It just seems unjustifiable, the problem they have is with people riding illegally on the road and in fields etc and they ban everyone rather than dealing with the problem
     
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    I would like to see them try to enforce it, when everyone could say I came on my own. Such a waste of money, and as for 2 people, any one coming into harlow as a pair is breaking the law, car as well
     
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  9. BlackHornet

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    What a crock of shit. I think they will have a hard time enforcing it.
    Do funeral processions class as a organised ride out :-/
    What about the convoy of post office vans leaving the depot?
    If I ride to Harlow then where does the rideout really start from?
     
  10. lammyR6

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    Yep :). On Saturday, when travelling with 36 other MX-5s down the coast in France it was "We are friends who own the same cars who just happen to be going to the same place and somehow got on the same train, Officer" :D
     
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  11. Stars and Stripes

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    Apparently this was a ride out in memory of a biker??
     
  12. BlackHornet

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    Yeah I saw that so wondered if every funeral in Harlow would now be illegal if any cars follow the hurse. All sounds a bit of over kill again.
     
  13. NAPA121

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    More from Harlow
    http://www.harlow.gov.uk/pr16-26

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    Harlow Council has received a number of concerns and questions raised in response to the injunction granted by Chelmsford County Court on 19 May 2016.

    The purpose of the injunction is not and has never been about stopping those responsible riders or drivers from enjoying using their vehicles in a lawful manner.

    Harlow Council is very sorry that this issue has upset and angered the wider biking community. This was never our intention and we hope the below helps explain the reasons for applying for the injunction and who it is ultimately targeted at.

    Harlow Council and Essex Police wants to make it clear that anyone riding bikes lawfully in Harlow on the road to either meet up with friends, including driving in a convoy; drive through the town; learn to ride or teach others, or take part in a charity event, will not be served with the injunction. This is the same for anyone driving a motor vehicle.

    If an event is to be organised for charity or any other occasion, which would mean a significant number of people attending, then the Council via contact@harlow.gov.uk and Police should be informed so arrangements can be made to support the event.

    The main aim of the injunction was to stop an unauthorised ride out event taking place on Saturday 22 May 2016, which would have attracted hundreds of young people on motorbikes and bystanders. Following a previous event held, both the Council and the Police had serious concerns about the danger this event would pose to the public, to those taking part and the wider impact on the community. Despite the Council and Police's attempts to work with and talk to the organisers there was no response. As a result of the injunction this event did not go ahead.

    The injunction also aims to target a growing problem of groups of people creating a nuisance by riding bikes illegally on the streets, public highways and on green spaces in Harlow. It is these unauthorised ride outs, and these only, which are the target of this injunction. Not only do these unauthorised ride outs cause nuisance to communities, it also puts the safety of the wider public and the riders at serious risk. Concerns are being raised by Harlow residents about persistent unauthorised gatherings causing a nuisance and antisocial behaviour, and the Council, supported by the Police, had to listen and act.

    The injunction will therefore only be served and enforced on people who are gathering and causing a nuisance and carrying out antisocial behaviour.

    The injunction does not distract from the Police's existing powers. It is simply one of a number of measures in place to deal with this specific problem being experienced in Harlow.

    This year the Essex Police have received 121 calls about motorbikes, quad bikes, pit bikes and mopeds being ridden illegally or in an antisocial manner in Harlow between March and May. This compares to 74 during the same time last year.

    The Council and the Police are working together to target the issue and have written to all parents/guardians of year 11 pupils and above in the town and attended school assemblies. The Police are also patrolling hotspot areas in the town, seizing bikes being ridden illegally and issuing warning notices under Section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002. We are also working with petrol stations to crack down on petrol being sold to under-16s and are distributing leaflets to young people.

    Statement from Inspector, Paul Maleary of Essex Police:

    “Essex Police fully supports the injunction held by Harlow Council. This clarification statement makes it clear that neither Essex Police or Harlow Council intend to target those persons engaged in lawful activity. Our response to any activity will continue to be proportionate and ensure that quality of life for Harlow residents is maintained.”
     
  14. BlackHornet

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    I just found the same thing.

    I am really tempted to send harlow council an email asking how many calls they have taken in the same period for other crimes to see what action they are doing there.

    like the 123 burglaries
    201 shop lifting offences
    272 violent crimes

    in fact these all are crimes and not the number of calls which could be about the same thing so far outweigh the 121 calls

    If people are riding illegally then you don't need an injunction to deal with it there are already 100's of laws that cover this. In fact an injunction isn't going to have any effect on these people as they don't give a shit about laws so having some crappy council lead pile of poo will mean even less.
     
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